Transfers 2024/25

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Tuesds
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Re: Transfers 2024/25

Post: # 378650Post Tuesds »

Jimbokav1971 wrote: 18 Aug 2024, 16:29
Tuesds wrote: 18 Aug 2024, 14:31
moortownbee wrote: 18 Aug 2024, 09:20
WhetstoneBee wrote: 18 Aug 2024, 08:38
WestHampsteadBee wrote: 17 Aug 2024, 23:32 I’ll put this out there. Don’t mind if people disagree. We need a more clinical striker if we’re going to win the league.
If he plays like he did yesterday then I’d agree, but thankfully he doesn’t usually and is generally much more clinical. The problem is that we have no one to bring on when he’s having a poor game, which is one of the main reasons I don’t think this squad is currently good enough to win the league. Our only back-up “centre forward” is an attacking midfielder who was playing for Hitchin Town last year, which is a ridiculous situation. In fact this is the third season in a row that we’ve started without any back-up for Kabamba, which is even more daft. If Nile Ranger has been training with us for months then surely he’s still good enough to do a job until we find something better?

Just putting it out there, I'd argue we do have Rhys Browne
I think Browne can play as a number 9, but he’s played the vast majority of his career as a winger or number 10 playing off a main striker(s), and based on the friendlies it doesn’t look as though we’ve signed him as an alternative to Kabamba. Last season he got 2 goals in 19 league games, and he’s only ever got double figures once in his 9-year senior career. Not striker numbers, although to be fair neither were Kabamba’s previously!
A reasonable scoring rate for a striker is generally thought to be a goal every 3 games.
Before joining us, Nicke had only ever played 30 games in a season 5 times at any level.
In these 5 seasons he scored 20, 19, 21, 12 & 5 goals.
the only season he hasn't hit double-figure goals, (when playing 30+ games), is 2020/21 for Kilmarnock in the SPL. Although he scored 5 goals, 11 of his 32 appearances were as a sub.
Just to clarify then, when Nicke has been played consistently throughout the season he scores pretty well, and it could also be argued that he's been misused, (as a Target Man), for much or even most of his career).

It's pretty hard to compare that to Browne, who has only ever hit double-figures once, despite making 30+ appearances in at least 4 seasons. I appreciate that Browne isn't a #9, but there is absolutely no comparison in their scoring records. Astonished that someone is trying to suggest otherwise. Kabamba has scored approaching 200 career goals.
The point was simply to acknowledge, while broadly disagreeing that Browne is a ready-made alternative to Kabamba, that less-than-stellar goal numbers in the past don’t necessarily mean a player can’t start scoring prolifically. Strange to call the off-hand comparison ‘astonishing’ when, according to Soccerbase, Kabamaba scored a total of 29 league goals in 172 games across five seasons prior to joining us.

Whatever Kabamba managed in the Isthmian league early in his career, it’s indisputable that he wasn’t achieving a prolific striker’s goal ratio prior to joining us, and indeed never had at our level or above (other than perhaps one short purple patch at Hartlepool). Obviously the 100+ other goals you are referring to must have come mostly at lower levels early in his career, but in terms of the years prior to joining us, I’d say it’s pretty clear that Kabamba wasn’t achieving a striker’s rate of scoring goals!

There’s no bigger fan of Kabamba than me, as another post above shows, and meanwhile I’d also say Brennan is due a huge amount of credit for picking up a player who hadn’t scored prolifically for many years and helping him to achieve what he has over the last 2 years.
becbee
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Re: Transfers 2024/25

Post: # 378651Post becbee »

Remember that after signing Kabamba 2 summers ago he was initially given squad number 15 but this was changed to 9 on the eve of the new season because we'd not signed a centre forward.

Also, it may only have been a PSF v a NLS side but Kabamba scored a hat trick v Hemel Hempstead only a few weeks ago. He will come with the goals again soon.
john dockers shorts
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Re: Transfers 2024/25

Post: # 378655Post john dockers shorts »

Why are people wetting their knickers over Nicke scoring. Not even a thing!
Jaydeebee
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Re: Transfers 2024/25

Post: # 378656Post Jaydeebee »

Love a good forum meltdown after an away win
Tuesds
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Re: Transfers 2024/25

Post: # 378657Post Tuesds »

Just exercising my right of reply!
Doyley
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Re: Transfers 2024/25

Post: # 378659Post Doyley »

Nicke will score our first goal on Tuesday and all will be well.
WelwynGCbee
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Re: Transfers 2024/25

Post: # 378662Post WelwynGCbee »

I recall that some people had similar doubts last season and considered that Nicke might be a one season wonder, and he proved people wrong by surpassing his goal tally. No reason to believe he won’t bang in 20+ this season again, if steady does the same then that is a great platform for a successful season.
Beesting
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Re: Transfers 2024/25

Post: # 378670Post Beesting »

As I said previously, my worry isnt with his lack of goals, he'll score a fair share. It all the other aspects of his game that have dropped that concerns me. Losing the majority of his duals. Coming out of a team for a few games isnt the worst thing that could happen to him.

Mo Eisa is still without a club after leaving MK Dons, only just turned 30 and was a top player a few years back.
Beesting
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Re: Transfers 2024/25

Post: # 378686Post Beesting »

Had a look at potential strikers we could bring in, all of which are without a club

Mo Eisa
Macauley Bonne
Tomi Adeloye (Yes that one)
Matt Smith (scored 24 for Salford last season so unlikely)
Fejri Okenabirhie
Connor Wickham
Tuesds
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Re: Transfers 2024/25

Post: # 378687Post Tuesds »

It depends if we’re looking to bring in cover/competition for Kabamba or seeking to replace him. If it’s the former, I would think loaning a promising youngster from a higher level might be the best bet, following on from the success of the O’Donkor signing last season.
becbee
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Re: Transfers 2024/25

Post: # 378690Post becbee »

Maybe we should ask Chelsea? They have 43 first teamers listed plus a few more, there seems pretty much no hope for their U21's.
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Jimbokav1971
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Re: Transfers 2024/25

Post: # 378691Post Jimbokav1971 »

Tuesds wrote: 18 Aug 2024, 17:07
Jimbokav1971 wrote: 18 Aug 2024, 16:29
Tuesds wrote: 18 Aug 2024, 14:31
moortownbee wrote: 18 Aug 2024, 09:20
WhetstoneBee wrote: 18 Aug 2024, 08:38

If he plays like he did yesterday then I’d agree, but thankfully he doesn’t usually and is generally much more clinical. The problem is that we have no one to bring on when he’s having a poor game, which is one of the main reasons I don’t think this squad is currently good enough to win the league. Our only back-up “centre forward” is an attacking midfielder who was playing for Hitchin Town last year, which is a ridiculous situation. In fact this is the third season in a row that we’ve started without any back-up for Kabamba, which is even more daft. If Nile Ranger has been training with us for months then surely he’s still good enough to do a job until we find something better?

Just putting it out there, I'd argue we do have Rhys Browne
I think Browne can play as a number 9, but he’s played the vast majority of his career as a winger or number 10 playing off a main striker(s), and based on the friendlies it doesn’t look as though we’ve signed him as an alternative to Kabamba. Last season he got 2 goals in 19 league games, and he’s only ever got double figures once in his 9-year senior career. Not striker numbers, although to be fair neither were Kabamba’s previously!
A reasonable scoring rate for a striker is generally thought to be a goal every 3 games.
Before joining us, Nicke had only ever played 30 games in a season 5 times at any level.
In these 5 seasons he scored 20, 19, 21, 12 & 5 goals.
the only season he hasn't hit double-figure goals, (when playing 30+ games), is 2020/21 for Kilmarnock in the SPL. Although he scored 5 goals, 11 of his 32 appearances were as a sub.
Just to clarify then, when Nicke has been played consistently throughout the season he scores pretty well, and it could also be argued that he's been misused, (as a Target Man), for much or even most of his career).

It's pretty hard to compare that to Browne, who has only ever hit double-figures once, despite making 30+ appearances in at least 4 seasons. I appreciate that Browne isn't a #9, but there is absolutely no comparison in their scoring records. Astonished that someone is trying to suggest otherwise. Kabamba has scored approaching 200 career goals.
The point was simply to acknowledge, while broadly disagreeing that Browne is a ready-made alternative to Kabamba, that less-than-stellar goal numbers in the past don’t necessarily mean a player can’t start scoring prolifically. Strange to call the off-hand comparison ‘astonishing’ when, according to Soccerbase, Kabamaba scored a total of 29 league goals in 172 games across five seasons prior to joining us.

Whatever Kabamba managed in the Isthmian league early in his career, it’s indisputable that he wasn’t achieving a prolific striker’s goal ratio prior to joining us, and indeed never had at our level or above (other than perhaps one short purple patch at Hartlepool). Obviously the 100+ other goals you are referring to must have come mostly at lower levels early in his career, but in terms of the years prior to joining us, I’d say it’s pretty clear that Kabamba wasn’t achieving a striker’s rate of scoring goals!

There’s no bigger fan of Kabamba than me, as another post above shows, and meanwhile I’d also say Brennan is due a huge amount of credit for picking up a player who hadn’t scored prolifically for many years and helping him to achieve what he has over the last 2 years.
Apologies Tuesds. I read far more into your post than was actually there. :oooops:
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Jimbokav1971
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Re: Transfers 2024/25

Post: # 378692Post Jimbokav1971 »

Beesting wrote: 19 Aug 2024, 12:55 Had a look at potential strikers we could bring in, all of which are without a club

Mo Eisa
Macauley Bonne
Tomi Adeloye (Yes that one)
Matt Smith (scored 24 for Salford last season so unlikely)
Fejri Okenabirhie
Connor Wickham
Nothing wrong with Tomi Adeloye at all. He would be right up our street. The only thing with these free agent signings now is that they won't have had a proper pre-season, (even if they're fit), and it means that it will take them a while to get up to speed and we also know that no pre-season causes knock-on effects in the 2nd half of the season.
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Re: Transfers 2024/25

Post: # 378694Post BeeArmy22 »

becbee wrote: 19 Aug 2024, 13:36 Maybe we should ask Chelsea? They have 43 first teamers listed plus a few more, there seems pretty much no hope for their U21's.
They don’t loan outfield players to non league
becbee
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Re: Transfers 2024/25

Post: # 378705Post becbee »

BeeArmy22 wrote: 19 Aug 2024, 14:00
becbee wrote: 19 Aug 2024, 13:36 Maybe we should ask Chelsea? They have 43 first teamers listed plus a few more, there seems pretty much no hope for their U21's.
They don’t loan outfield players to non league
Maybe they don't but they'd hardly notice if they did.
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