Forest Green Rovers (Away) The Frozen Veg Match Thread

[thebeekeeper]

Wow I knew his stock was rising ahead of his leg break, but was never aware he was on his way to Spurs. Any more info available on that?

Don't think it was mentioned on podcast interview with Downhill Second Half. Can re listen though.

I've got a vague recollection of a £1million move to Blackburn Rovers being spoken about at the time.

[Anthony]

An utterly pointless thought in the grand scheme of things, but couldn’t the club have come to an agreement with Bromley that Nicke leaves after the Forest green game?

It’s not like he was eligible for the Newcastle game anyway and obviously was much needed for this title race 6 pointer.

Frustrating !

They're never going to agree to let him play after the deal has been agreed in case he gets injured.

I remember Liam Hatch played after the fee of 150k was agreed with Peterborough. Madness on our part given the way he used to throw himself about and the fact that he was worth nowhere near 150k (although he was in a pretty rich vein of form at the time)

[rudebwoyben]

And after what happened with poor Warren Goodhind and his move to Tottenham, would think we wouldn't want to risk losing out on the signing/finances either.

He was turning into a great player before a Hednesford player broke his leg. He was never the same player again.

[talldarkslim]

The one real positive from last night was the clean sheet. Titles are won by a strong defence just look at Notts Forest over achieving for this very reason. We are in a strong position in the table but without additional investment in a striker we are looking at the play-offs. We know how well we do in them!

[Norfolkbee110]

I think that we went to FGR with a point we were determined to keep. Probably could’ve stepped things right up and come away with three. The major problem with going all out for a winner is that there is always the risk of getting floored by the sucker punch and coming away with nothing.

[WestHampsteadBee]

Nice day out in the Cotsworld followed by a gutsy and title challenging performance (even if some people seem to be disappointed with it for some reason). We showed we are more than capable of challenging the best teams in the league yesterday and against Oldham at home. Unfortunately, our lack of quality in the opposition box let us down. Stead should've scored at least 2, Glover has to score his chance and I think Ndlovu will be disappointed he didn't have one either. The difference between us and York (who by the way lost 2-0 at Forest Green so are by no means unbeatable), is the simple fact that they can splash more money on Pearce, Akinyemi and Stones than we can because of our wage structure. This is not because we have "too many centre backs" or goalkeepers or any other position. We simply will not pay the going rate for a striker that will GUARANTEE goals because of the we set up our wages.

In terms of the game itself, I thought Evans looked like a massive upgrade on Hayes in terms of the way we want to play as a team. He releases the ball much quicker than Hayes and plays far better passes into the middle and final third. Myles Kenlock and Anthony Hartigan were both superb. I also though Mark Shelton offered great energy as a number 10, however lacked that killer instinct to pick out the final pass. This was also evident with Steady, especially in the first half. Ndlovu made some incredible movements off the shoulder of their centre backs but we were so reluctant to play that pass in behind them. This is likely due to not quite understanding Ndlovu's clever movements yet as our midfielders are so used to playing with Nicke who struggled to peel off centre halves. Think it's a real positive that Ndlovu offers that threat. It was gutting not to be in the lead by at least 2 goals at half time and if you look at both Twitter and their forum, you can see how lucky the Forest Green fans felt they got not to lose that game of football.

Last season, we would've picked up 0/6 against a rival, this year we've picked up 4. Yes, a point isn't ideal, but if we back it up with 6 points in the 2 against Southend and Maidenhead, it looks far greater. We are 10 unbeaten, 1 point of the top (no guarantee York beat Oldham and Rochdale) and with the hunt for a new striker and wing back ongoing, we remain in the title race without question. 4 draws in a row shows we are very difficult to beat now, however we need wins now. We simply have to keep up the performances and the results will come. If we can put a winning run of 5 games together soon, you'll see a very different picture. It's going to be rocky, nervous road to the end but please please please, keep backing the lads.

[markobee]

I think that we went to FGR with a point we were determined to keep. Probably could’ve stepped things right up and come away with three. The major problem with going all out for a winner is that there is always the risk of getting floored by the sucker punch and coming away with nothing.

Disagree with this. We were attacking right up to the final whistle.
It was FGR who were obviously determined to come away from the match with one point, and who were defending it from the beginning of the match to the end. It is clearly their tactic - as indeed Steve Cotterill made clear in his post-match comments. I think if one thing became clear last night, it is that FGR won't win the League this season, and that their plan is to get promoted via the play offs. They have a first class defence, but their midfield isn't up to it, and their attacking abilities are very limited.

[beesknees99]

Nice day out in the Cotsworld followed by a gutsy and title challenging performance (even if some people seem to be disappointed with it for some reason). We showed we are more than capable of challenging the best teams in the league yesterday and against Oldham at home. Unfortunately, our lack of quality in the opposition box let us down. Stead should've scored at least 2, Glover has to score his chance and I think Ndlovu will be disappointed he didn't have one either. The difference between us and York (who by the way lost 2-0 at Forest Green so are by no means unbeatable), is the simple fact that they can splash more money on Pearce, Akinyemi and Stones than we can because of our wage structure. This is not because we have "too many centre backs" or goalkeepers or any other position. We simply will not pay the going rate for a striker that will GUARANTEE goals because of the we set up our wages.

In terms of the game itself, I thought Evans looked like a massive upgrade on Hayes in terms of the way we want to play as a team. He releases the ball much quicker than Hayes and plays far better passes into the middle and final third. Myles Kenlock and Anthony Hartigan were both superb. I also though Mark Shelton offered great energy as a number 10, however lacked that killer instinct to pick out the final pass. This was also evident with Steady, especially in the first half. Ndlovu made some incredible movements off the shoulder of their centre backs but we were so reluctant to play that pass in behind them. This is likely due to not quite understanding Ndlovu's clever movements yet as our midfielders are so used to playing with Nicke who struggled to peel off centre halves. Think it's a real positive that Ndlovu offers that threat. It was gutting not to be in the lead by at least 2 goals at half time and if you look at both Twitter and their forum, you can see how lucky the Forest Green fans felt they got not to lose that game of football.

Last season, we would've picked up 0/6 against a rival, this year we've picked up 4. Yes, a point isn't ideal, but if we back it up with 6 points in the 2 against Southend and Maidenhead, it looks far greater. We are 10 unbeaten, 1 point of the top (no guarantee York beat Oldham and Rochdale) and with the hunt for a new striker and wing back ongoing, we remain in the title race without question. 4 draws in a row shows we are very difficult to beat now, however we need wins now. We simply have to keep up the performances and the results will come. If we can put a winning run of 5 games together soon, you'll see a very different picture. It's going to be rocky, nervous road to the end but please please please, keep backing the lads.

Hear hear.


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[becbee]

Nice day out in the Cotsworld followed by a gutsy and title challenging performance (even if some people seem to be disappointed with it for some reason). We showed we are more than capable of challenging the best teams in the league yesterday and against Oldham at home. Unfortunately, our lack of quality in the opposition box let us down. Stead should've scored at least 2, Glover has to score his chance and I think Ndlovu will be disappointed he didn't have one either. The difference between us and York (who by the way lost 2-0 at Forest Green so are by no means unbeatable), is the simple fact that they can splash more money on Pearce, Akinyemi and Stones than we can because of our wage structure. This is not because we have "too many centre backs" or goalkeepers or any other position. We simply will not pay the going rate for a striker that will GUARANTEE goals because of the we set up our wages.

In terms of the game itself, I thought Evans looked like a massive upgrade on Hayes in terms of the way we want to play as a team. He releases the ball much quicker than Hayes and plays far better passes into the middle and final third. Myles Kenlock and Anthony Hartigan were both superb. I also though Mark Shelton offered great energy as a number 10, however lacked that killer instinct to pick out the final pass. This was also evident with Steady, especially in the first half. Ndlovu made some incredible movements off the shoulder of their centre backs but we were so reluctant to play that pass in behind them. This is likely due to not quite understanding Ndlovu's clever movements yet as our midfielders are so used to playing with Nicke who struggled to peel off centre halves. Think it's a real positive that Ndlovu offers that threat. It was gutting not to be in the lead by at least 2 goals at half time and if you look at both Twitter and their forum, you can see how lucky the Forest Green fans felt they got not to lose that game of football.

Last season, we would've picked up 0/6 against a rival, this year we've picked up 4. Yes, a point isn't ideal, but if we back it up with 6 points in the 2 against Southend and Maidenhead, it looks far greater. We are 10 unbeaten, 1 point of the top (no guarantee York beat Oldham and Rochdale) and with the hunt for a new striker and wing back ongoing, we remain in the title race without question. 4 draws in a row shows we are very difficult to beat now, however we need wins now. We simply have to keep up the performances and the results will come. If we can put a winning run of 5 games together soon, you'll see a very different picture. It's going to be rocky, nervous road to the end but please please please, keep backing the lads.

Thanks for this, always good to get a report from someone who was actually at the match.

But surely nobody can GUARENTEE scoring. Just some players are more likely than others. Cardwell and Quigley couldn't manage it for FGR.

[letchbee94]

I personally don't get the hype with Forest green. Yes they look solid at the back but attacking wise I have seen nothing special from them (guess we can credit our players for some of that). But when you think of the teams from last few years who have gone up (Wrexham, Stockport, Chesterfield, Notts) they not in same category.

I thought game was not going to finish when we entered ground with the mist but thankfully it did not get anu worse.
Good first half from us and should have been couple goals up.

[letchbee94]

Last season, we would've picked up 0/6 against a rival, this year we've picked up 4. Yes, a point isn't ideal, but if we back it up with 6 points in the 2 against Southend and Maidenhead, it looks far greater. We are 10 unbeaten, 1 point of the top (no guarantee York beat Oldham and Rochdale) and with the hunt for a new striker and wing back ongoing, we remain in the title race without question. 4 draws in a row shows we are very difficult to beat now, however we need wins now. We simply have to keep up the performances and the results will come. If we can put a winning run of 5 games together soon, you'll see a very different picture. It's going to be rocky, nervous road to the end but please please please, keep backing the lads.

Last season we got 4 point Bromley who went on to get promoted.

[WestHampsteadBee]

Last season, we would've picked up 0/6 against a rival, this year we've picked up 4. Yes, a point isn't ideal, but if we back it up with 6 points in the 2 against Southend and Maidenhead, it looks far greater. We are 10 unbeaten, 1 point of the top (no guarantee York beat Oldham and Rochdale) and with the hunt for a new striker and wing back ongoing, we remain in the title race without question. 4 draws in a row shows we are very difficult to beat now, however we need wins now. We simply have to keep up the performances and the results will come. If we can put a winning run of 5 games together soon, you'll see a very different picture. It's going to be rocky, nervous road to the end but please please please, keep backing the lads.

Last season we got 4 point Bromley who went on to get promoted.

Get your point but they were never really in the title chase though. We were for a short while lol.

[WestHampsteadBee]

Nice day out in the Cotsworld followed by a gutsy and title challenging performance (even if some people seem to be disappointed with it for some reason). We showed we are more than capable of challenging the best teams in the league yesterday and against Oldham at home. Unfortunately, our lack of quality in the opposition box let us down. Stead should've scored at least 2, Glover has to score his chance and I think Ndlovu will be disappointed he didn't have one either. The difference between us and York (who by the way lost 2-0 at Forest Green so are by no means unbeatable), is the simple fact that they can splash more money on Pearce, Akinyemi and Stones than we can because of our wage structure. This is not because we have "too many centre backs" or goalkeepers or any other position. We simply will not pay the going rate for a striker that will GUARANTEE goals because of the we set up our wages.

In terms of the game itself, I thought Evans looked like a massive upgrade on Hayes in terms of the way we want to play as a team. He releases the ball much quicker than Hayes and plays far better passes into the middle and final third. Myles Kenlock and Anthony Hartigan were both superb. I also though Mark Shelton offered great energy as a number 10, however lacked that killer instinct to pick out the final pass. This was also evident with Steady, especially in the first half. Ndlovu made some incredible movements off the shoulder of their centre backs but we were so reluctant to play that pass in behind them. This is likely due to not quite understanding Ndlovu's clever movements yet as our midfielders are so used to playing with Nicke who struggled to peel off centre halves. Think it's a real positive that Ndlovu offers that threat. It was gutting not to be in the lead by at least 2 goals at half time and if you look at both Twitter and their forum, you can see how lucky the Forest Green fans felt they got not to lose that game of football.

Last season, we would've picked up 0/6 against a rival, this year we've picked up 4. Yes, a point isn't ideal, but if we back it up with 6 points in the 2 against Southend and Maidenhead, it looks far greater. We are 10 unbeaten, 1 point of the top (no guarantee York beat Oldham and Rochdale) and with the hunt for a new striker and wing back ongoing, we remain in the title race without question. 4 draws in a row shows we are very difficult to beat now, however we need wins now. We simply have to keep up the performances and the results will come. If we can put a winning run of 5 games together soon, you'll see a very different picture. It's going to be rocky, nervous road to the end but please please please, keep backing the lads.

Thanks for this, always good to get a report from someone who was actually at the match.

But surely nobody can GUARENTEE scoring. Just some players are more likely than others. Cardwell and Quigley couldn't manage it for FGR.

This is the exact reason we'd be unwilling to break the structure I'd guess!

[Beereasonable]

Nice day out in the Cotsworld followed by a gutsy and title challenging performance (even if some people seem to be disappointed with it for some reason). We showed we are more than capable of challenging the best teams in the league yesterday and against Oldham at home. Unfortunately, our lack of quality in the opposition box let us down. Stead should've scored at least 2, Glover has to score his chance and I think Ndlovu will be disappointed he didn't have one either. The difference between us and York (who by the way lost 2-0 at Forest Green so are by no means unbeatable), is the simple fact that they can splash more money on Pearce, Akinyemi and Stones than we can because of our wage structure. This is not because we have "too many centre backs" or goalkeepers or any other position. We simply will not pay the going rate for a striker that will GUARANTEE goals because of the we set up our wages.

In terms of the game itself, I thought Evans looked like a massive upgrade on Hayes in terms of the way we want to play as a team. He releases the ball much quicker than Hayes and plays far better passes into the middle and final third. Myles Kenlock and Anthony Hartigan were both superb. I also though Mark Shelton offered great energy as a number 10, however lacked that killer instinct to pick out the final pass. This was also evident with Steady, especially in the first half. Ndlovu made some incredible movements off the shoulder of their centre backs but we were so reluctant to play that pass in behind them. This is likely due to not quite understanding Ndlovu's clever movements yet as our midfielders are so used to playing with Nicke who struggled to peel off centre halves. Think it's a real positive that Ndlovu offers that threat. It was gutting not to be in the lead by at least 2 goals at half time and if you look at both Twitter and their forum, you can see how lucky the Forest Green fans felt they got not to lose that game of football.

Last season, we would've picked up 0/6 against a rival, this year we've picked up 4. Yes, a point isn't ideal, but if we back it up with 6 points in the 2 against Southend and Maidenhead, it looks far greater. We are 10 unbeaten, 1 point of the top (no guarantee York beat Oldham and Rochdale) and with the hunt for a new striker and wing back ongoing, we remain in the title race without question. 4 draws in a row shows we are very difficult to beat now, however we need wins now. We simply have to keep up the performances and the results will come. If we can put a winning run of 5 games together soon, you'll see a very different picture. It's going to be rocky, nervous road to the end but please please please, keep backing the lads.

Thanks for this, always good to get a report from someone who was actually at the match.

But surely nobody can GUARENTEE scoring. Just some players are more likely than others. Cardwell and Quigley couldn't manage it for FGR.

This is the exact reason we'd be unwilling to break the structure I'd guess!

Thought we already had someone who was guaranteed 20+ goals this season. He then seemingly falls out of favour with the manager and we then sell him on I'm not saying it wasn't decent money for him but why sell when we're going for promotion

[DerekRocholl]

Nice day out in the Cotsworld followed by a gutsy and title challenging performance (even if some people seem to be disappointed with it for some reason). We showed we are more than capable of challenging the best teams in the league yesterday and against Oldham at home. Unfortunately, our lack of quality in the opposition box let us down. Stead should've scored at least 2, Glover has to score his chance and I think Ndlovu will be disappointed he didn't have one either. The difference between us and York (who by the way lost 2-0 at Forest Green so are by no means unbeatable), is the simple fact that they can splash more money on Pearce, Akinyemi and Stones than we can because of our wage structure. This is not because we have "too many centre backs" or goalkeepers or any other position. We simply will not pay the going rate for a striker that will GUARANTEE goals because of the we set up our wages.

In terms of the game itself, I thought Evans looked like a massive upgrade on Hayes in terms of the way we want to play as a team. He releases the ball much quicker than Hayes and plays far better passes into the middle and final third. Myles Kenlock and Anthony Hartigan were both superb. I also though Mark Shelton offered great energy as a number 10, however lacked that killer instinct to pick out the final pass. This was also evident with Steady, especially in the first half. Ndlovu made some incredible movements off the shoulder of their centre backs but we were so reluctant to play that pass in behind them. This is likely due to not quite understanding Ndlovu's clever movements yet as our midfielders are so used to playing with Nicke who struggled to peel off centre halves. Think it's a real positive that Ndlovu offers that threat. It was gutting not to be in the lead by at least 2 goals at half time and if you look at both Twitter and their forum, you can see how lucky the Forest Green fans felt they got not to lose that game of football.

Last season, we would've picked up 0/6 against a rival, this year we've picked up 4. Yes, a point isn't ideal, but if we back it up with 6 points in the 2 against Southend and Maidenhead, it looks far greater. We are 10 unbeaten, 1 point of the top (no guarantee York beat Oldham and Rochdale) and with the hunt for a new striker and wing back ongoing, we remain in the title race without question. 4 draws in a row shows we are very difficult to beat now, however we need wins now. We simply have to keep up the performances and the results will come. If we can put a winning run of 5 games together soon, you'll see a very different picture. It's going to be rocky, nervous road to the end but please please please, keep backing the lads.

Thanks for this, always good to get a report from someone who was actually at the match.

But surely nobody can GUARENTEE scoring. Just some players are more likely than others. Cardwell and Quigley couldn't manage it for FGR.

This is the exact reason we'd be unwilling to break the structure I'd guess!

Thought we already had someone who was guaranteed 20+ goals this season. He then seemingly falls out of favour with the manager and we then sell him on I'm not saying it wasn't decent money for him but why sell when we're going for promotion

Probably because it was the right time to sell him from a business perspective.

I think Kabamba got some unjustifiable, and frankly odd, stick from various quarters but if we get a stronger squad as a result of DB using some of the transfer money well it will hopefully be a win all round.