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Re: Hive

Posted: 25 Jul 2013, 18:12
by BeesKnees
I've looked at the planning permission for Lords. What the council did was specify that light from the site must not exceed 20 lux and stipulate that before being used each year they are turned on and tested. So far they have been well below this level. Would be great if a similar approach could be taken.

Re: Hive

Posted: 26 Jul 2013, 12:45
by 1983

Re: Hive

Posted: 26 Jul 2013, 22:14
by BeesKnees

Re: Hive

Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 16:14
by lyonsdownbee
Noticed someone's had a go at painting the east stand ( pitch side) grey.
Hope it's the first coat !!

Re: Hive

Posted: 28 Jul 2013, 00:27
by BFCST Official Rep
I suspect the height of the West Stand is likely to be a bigger issue than the flood lights or turnstiles.

Derek
(Not an Official Trust Post)

Re: Hive

Posted: 28 Jul 2013, 06:15
by kingoffootball
Where's the height measure from? Can we raise the ground level behind and to the sides of it?

Re: Hive

Posted: 28 Jul 2013, 07:03
by Moonchild_Bee
BFCST Official Rep wrote:I suspect the height of the West Stand is likely to be a bigger issue than the flood lights or turnstiles.

Derek
(Not an Official Trust Post)
Irrespective of what Cllr Shah says, I thought that all others aspects of the building work had been recommended for approval (bar the floodlights where further information required = why the application was refused?).

Re: Hive

Posted: 29 Jul 2013, 12:20
by BeesKnees
Guidance on lighting:
http://archive.defra.gov.uk/environment ... isance.pdf

If I've followed it correctly then the interesting bit is that Lighting for sports facilities is exempt if it can show it has used ‘best practicable means’ of minimising public nuisance of artificial light. So if planning was refused on this basis I think the club would have very strong grounds on appeal against the environmental protection advice given.

Re: Hive

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 08:35
by BeesKnees
Well tonights the night when the planning application succeeds or fails. Abacus have added a more detailed plan of lighting levels outside the ground so hopefully that will be enough to persuade those in power that that floodlights are acceptable. The plan shows light at the top of the embankment will be 10 lux.

Cllr Shah now saying that the test of the floodlights on Friday failed guidelines so tonights planning permission is looking very dodgy. :(

Re: Hive

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 18:09
by BeesKnees
Harrow planning dept screwed up and decision now deferred with no idea when it will be heard next.

Re: Hive

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 18:20
by WelwynBee
BarnetSteve wrote:Harrow planning dept screwed up and decision now deferred with no idea when it will be heard next.
I bet it'll be after August 10th. What is it about London Borough authorities !?!

I wonder if this was filibustering by those opposed to the Hive.

Re: Hive

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 18:22
by Mikel Bee
It sounds like Harrow Council never assessed whether we needed an environmental impact assessment. Ooops.

Is it safe to assume we can continue to use the stadium the same way we have during pre season until the next planning meeting?

Re: Hive

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 20:54
by ninestein
More to the point, if we need to use the lights before a decision is made, can we? When is our first evening game...?

Re: Hive

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 20:59
by jerroll
24th september

Re: Hive

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 23:04
by 1983
What a farce. Club is bloody jinxed. :*(: