EFL Petition

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becbee
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Re: EFL Petition

Post: # 303880Post becbee »

Hiveoccupier wrote:
pgbee wrote:
barnetjohn wrote:A better strategy would have been to not mount the campaign until we were in relatively good shape vis a vis the pandemic.
Which is unlikely to be during a football season under the current parameters and strategy in place. Vaccine is the only circuit breaker that has a chance.
Yes, perhaps if we had followed the same approach as the South Koreans instead of dabbling with herd immunity nonsense things might be different. The consequence of electing a cretin and his clown troupe into Government.
You mean as opposed to electing Jeremy Corbyn? I am absolutely not a fan of Boris and the Tories but do you think Corbyn would have done any better? Differently yes - but better?
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Re: EFL Petition

Post: # 303881Post JWTBee »

becbee wrote:
Hiveoccupier wrote:
pgbee wrote:
barnetjohn wrote:A better strategy would have been to not mount the campaign until we were in relatively good shape vis a vis the pandemic.
Which is unlikely to be during a football season under the current parameters and strategy in place. Vaccine is the only circuit breaker that has a chance.
Yes, perhaps if we had followed the same approach as the South Koreans instead of dabbling with herd immunity nonsense things might be different. The consequence of electing a cretin and his clown troupe into Government.
You mean as opposed to electing Jeremy Corbyn? I am absolutely not a fan of Boris and the Tories but do you think Corbyn would have done any better? Differently yes - but better?
Definitely not!
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Re: EFL Petition

Post: # 303883Post #Beebot »

becbee wrote:
Hiveoccupier wrote:
pgbee wrote:
barnetjohn wrote:A better strategy would have been to not mount the campaign until we were in relatively good shape vis a vis the pandemic.
Which is unlikely to be during a football season under the current parameters and strategy in place. Vaccine is the only circuit breaker that has a chance.
Yes, perhaps if we had followed the same approach as the South Koreans instead of dabbling with herd immunity nonsense things might be different. The consequence of electing a cretin and his clown troupe into Government.
You mean as opposed to electing Jeremy Corbyn? I am absolutely not a fan of Boris and the Tories but do you think Corbyn would have done any better? Differently yes - but better?
Corbyn certainly wouldn't have adopted herd immunity as a strategy.
pgbee
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Re: EFL Petition

Post: # 303887Post pgbee »

becbee wrote:
Hiveoccupier wrote:
pgbee wrote:
barnetjohn wrote:A better strategy would have been to not mount the campaign until we were in relatively good shape vis a vis the pandemic.
Which is unlikely to be during a football season under the current parameters and strategy in place. Vaccine is the only circuit breaker that has a chance.
Yes, perhaps if we had followed the same approach as the South Koreans instead of dabbling with herd immunity nonsense things might be different. The consequence of electing a cretin and his clown troupe into Government.
You mean as opposed to electing Jeremy Corbyn? I am absolutely not a fan of Boris and the Tories but do you think Corbyn would have done any better? Differently yes - but better?
Just for the record none of the options represented good value for my vote.
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rudebwoyben
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Re: EFL Petition

Post: # 303888Post rudebwoyben »

I think Corbyn would have implemented a lockdown more quickly and set up a track and tracing system quickly operated by local authority public health teams and not outsourced to companies like Serco. Oh and the UK would not have been heading to a no deal Brexit this year either.
However, compliance would have been a big issue seeing how many of the older generation basically saw him as the devil incarnate.
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DerekRocholl
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Re: EFL Petition

Post: # 303891Post DerekRocholl »

becbee wrote:
Hiveoccupier wrote:
pgbee wrote:
barnetjohn wrote:A better strategy would have been to not mount the campaign until we were in relatively good shape vis a vis the pandemic.
Which is unlikely to be during a football season under the current parameters and strategy in place. Vaccine is the only circuit breaker that has a chance.
Yes, perhaps if we had followed the same approach as the South Koreans instead of dabbling with herd immunity nonsense things might be different. The consequence of electing a cretin and his clown troupe into Government.
You mean as opposed to electing Jeremy Corbyn? I am absolutely not a fan of Boris and the Tories but do you think Corbyn would have done any better? Differently yes - but better?
Corbyn would have done better, a progressive coalition government would have done better, a group of primary school children would have done better. Nobody other than Trump could have done worse.
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Post: # 303898Post hoofer2 »

rudebwoyben wrote:I think Corby would have implemented a lockdown more quickly and set up a track and tracing system quickly operated by local authority public health teams and not outsourced to companies like Serco. Oh and the UK would not have been heading to a no deal Brexit this year either.
However, compliance would have been a big issue seeing how many of the older generation basically saw him as the devil incarnate.
I don't normally comment on politics but Corbyn did not have the backbone to say he was pro Brexit or remain. The 3 main political parties decided to bicker among themselves on a topic that had nothing to do with party politics, the future of UK was at stake. If the Tories, Lib Dems and Labour spoke from common platform, it would have tipped decision to Remain.

We are now left with the same bickering and neither a Brexit or a Remain and will be worse off from trade deals etc.
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Post: # 303904Post Norfolk & Chance »

barnetjohn wrote:A better strategy would have been to not mount the campaign until we were in relatively good shape vis a vis the pandemic.
Which is unlikely to be during a football season under the current parameters and strategy in place. Vaccine is the only circuit breaker that has a chance.[/quote]

Yes, perhaps if we had followed the same approach as the South Koreans instead of dabbling with herd immunity nonsense things might be different. The consequence of electing a cretin and his clown troupe into Government.[/quote]

You mean as opposed to electing Jeremy Corbyn? I am absolutely not a fan of Boris and the Tories but do you think Corbyn would have done any better? Differently yes - but better?[/quote]

Corbyn would have done better, a progressive coalition government would have done better, a group of primary school children would have done better. Nobody other than Trump could have done worse.[/quote]

Yes of course, under Corbyn, who broke the rules himself, everyone would have followed the rules and exercised collective responsibility and common sense.
It's only because it's the Tories in charge that so many people fucked us all over by acting appallingly and kick starting the virus again.
Lol.
I love socialists politicising a worldwide pandemic. 22 european states broke their own infection records on a single day last week. France, run by socialists, had 30000 plus infections in a single day, whilst testing massively lower numbers than the UK.
No-one is doing well but we are doing as well as possible.
This virus is unrelenting and stupid people the length and breadth of the country have allowed it to flare up.
The politicising of this disaster by starmer, Burhnam etc won't be forgotten.
Burnham setting this up as a north south divide is disgraceful. It won't be forgotten.
But that's what socialists do isn't it, blame the Tories !!

Shame there's no game on today so we could forget all this shit for a couple of hours.
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Mikel Bee
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Re: EFL Petition

Post: # 303908Post Mikel Bee »

Corbyn would have handled this better than BoJo, as would most other people given the job.
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BigBee
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Post: # 303910Post BigBee »

Blah, Blah, Blah and my Dad’s bigger than yours.

If you all know so much about Covid why aren’t you all on
some quango or think tank committees.

Nobody in the whole world is certain sure, how to deal with
this and not see the economy fold.
pgbee
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Post: # 303912Post pgbee »

BigBee wrote:Blah, Blah, Blah and my Dad’s bigger than yours.

If you all know so much about Covid why aren’t you all on
some quango or think tank committees.

Nobody in the whole world is certain sure, how to deal with
this and not see the economy fold.
So you think the government has done a good job? By letting people fly in from everywhere with no checks , quarantine etc. for months, it's common sense FFS to stop that and send people from hospitals to care homes with no tests, again common sense bypass , don't need to be in a quango to see that but all the people making decisions have degrees in classics and other useless subjects with no clue on science whatsoever. Sadly most of the UK has had a common sense by pass and behaved irresponsibly throughout because these days it's all about me,me,me.
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rudebwoyben
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Re: EFL Petition

Post: # 303913Post rudebwoyben »

Norfolk & Chance wrote:
barnetjohn wrote:A better strategy would have been to not mount the campaign until we were in relatively good shape vis a vis the pandemic.
Which is unlikely to be during a football season under the current parameters and strategy in place. Vaccine is the only circuit breaker that has a chance.
Yes, perhaps if we had followed the same approach as the South Koreans instead of dabbling with herd immunity nonsense things might be different. The consequence of electing a cretin and his clown troupe into Government.[/quote]

You mean as opposed to electing Jeremy Corbyn? I am absolutely not a fan of Boris and the Tories but do you think Corbyn would have done any better? Differently yes - but better?[/quote]

Corbyn would have done better, a progressive coalition government would have done better, a group of primary school children would have done better. Nobody other than Trump could have done worse.[/quote]

Yes of course, under Corbyn, who broke the rules himself, everyone would have followed the rules and exercised collective responsibility and common sense.
It's only because it's the Tories in charge that so many people fucked us all over by acting appallingly and kick starting the virus again.
Lol.
I love socialists politicising a worldwide pandemic. 22 european states broke their own infection records on a single day last week. France, run by socialists, had 30000 plus infections in a single day, whilst testing massively lower numbers than the UK.
No-one is doing well but we are doing as well as possible.
This virus is unrelenting and stupid people the length and breadth of the country have allowed it to flare up.
The politicising of this disaster by starmer, Burhnam etc won't be forgotten.
Burnham setting this up as a north south divide is disgraceful. It won't be forgotten.
But that's what socialists do isn't it, blame the Tories !!

Shame there's no game on today so we could forget all this shit for a couple of hours.[/quote]

France’s government is not a socialist government and we are not doing as well as possible.
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rudebwoyben
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Re: EFL Petition

Post: # 303914Post rudebwoyben »

BigBee wrote:Blah, Blah, Blah and my Dad’s bigger than yours.

If you all know so much about Covid why aren’t you all on
some quango or think tank committees.

Nobody in the whole world is certain sure, how to deal with
this and not see the economy fold.
Again we don’t have to look far to find countries who have responded much better to it than the UK: Germany, New Zealand, Vietnam, South Korea and Japan.
DerekRocholl
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Post: # 303927Post DerekRocholl »

South Korea is a very good example. They haven’t had a lock down, their death rate is 9 per million, they have experienced almost no decline in GDP, and they are now letting fans back into their top football league (25% of capacity).

The country has a population of 51 million, 80% of who, live in urban areas.

Their approach is based on the experience of dealing with SARS, and is based on making sure that they isolate anyone who is carrying the virus as quickly as possible and tracing and testing everyone they could have infected with rigour.

They didn’t let the virus spread so widely that test, trace and isolate required discussions of moonshots and all the other fiascos we have seen.

To get anywhere close to following their example we need another lockdown to get transmission down and trace and isolate given back to properly funded local public health teams backed up with the support that makes it economically possible for people to isolate.

That would be painful but it’s got to better than the confusing shit fest with no end game that the Eton Lardski is inflicting on is.
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Re: EFL Petition

Post: # 303929Post alexbach »

Hiveoccupier wrote:South Korea is a very good example. They haven’t had a lock down, their death rate is 9 per million, they have experienced almost no decline in GDP, and they are now letting fans back into their top football league (25% of capacity).

The country has a population of 51 million, 80% of who, live in urban areas.

Their approach is based on the experience of dealing with SARS, and is based on making sure that they isolate anyone who is carrying the virus as quickly as possible and tracing and testing everyone they could have infected with rigour.

They didn’t let the virus spread so widely that test, trace and isolate required discussions of moonshots and all the other fiascos we have seen.

To get anywhere close to following their example we need another lockdown to get transmission down and trace and isolate given back to properly funded local public health teams backed up with the support that makes it economically possible for people to isolate.

That would be painful but it’s got to better than the confusing shit fest with no end game that the Eton Lardski is inflicting on is.
Eton lardski?? Very good work. Hello hooray. Britain has suffered the worst fatalities in Europe. If this was a football analogy he'd have been out of a job weeks ago.The more sensible Tories recognise he is a liability

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