Injury update

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foxy
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Re: Injury update

Post: # 291295Post foxy »

so out of all the old "John Still 2 year duffs" who are we looking to keep

A few weeks ago, Balloon boy, Che and Adams would be a defo..... not so sure now? Especially as mass rebuilding has never worked that well before?

Even beeforever has pre-ordered a Che shirt for next season!
#Beebot
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Re: Injury update

Post: # 291297Post #Beebot »

foxy wrote:so out of all the old "John Still 2 year duffs" who are we looking to keep

A few weeks ago, Balloon boy, Che and Adams would be a defo..... not so sure now? Especially as mass rebuilding has never worked that well before?

Even beeforever has pre-ordered a Che shirt for next season!
Reynolds - maybe if he can keep up his run of form
Alexander - keep
Adams - was a maybe but now leaning towards keep
Sparkes - maybe, but only as he gives us options off the bench
Walker - keep keep keep, I'd give him another two years tbh
Matrevics - seems like a solid backup, but not sure if he wants to stay or if Azaze is a better option
Elito - release, too far from the first team

The most likely departures are the injury prone players. If Santos and Shaq can't get a run of games in at some point before the end of the season it will be hard to justify retaining them.
jerroll
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Re: Injury update

Post: # 291300Post jerroll »

#Beebot wrote:
foxy wrote:so out of all the old "John Still 2 year duffs" who are we looking to keep

A few weeks ago, Balloon boy, Che and Adams would be a defo..... not so sure now? Especially as mass rebuilding has never worked that well before?

Even beeforever has pre-ordered a Che shirt for next season!
Reynolds - maybe if he can keep up his run of form
Alexander - keep
Adams - was a maybe but now leaning towards keep
Sparkes - maybe, but only as he gives us options off the bench
Walker - keep keep keep, I'd give him another two years tbh
Matrevics - seems like a solid backup, but not sure if he wants to stay or if Azaze is a better option
Elito - release, too far from the first team
Depends which division we are in other than Josh don't think any of the others mentioned are league standard.
The most likely departures are the injury prone players. If Santos and Shaq can't get a run of games in at some point before the end of the season it will be hard to justify retaining them.
jerroll
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Re: Injury update

Post: # 291301Post jerroll »

#Beebot wrote:
foxy wrote:so out of all the old "John Still 2 year duffs" who are we looking to keep

A few weeks ago, Balloon boy, Che and Adams would be a defo..... not so sure now? Especially as mass rebuilding has never worked that well before?

Even beeforever has pre-ordered a Che shirt for next season!
Reynolds - maybe if he can keep up his run of form
Alexander - keep
Adams - was a maybe but now leaning towards keep
Sparkes - maybe, but only as he gives us options off the bench
Walker - keep keep keep, I'd give him another two years tbh
Matrevics - seems like a solid backup, but not sure if he wants to stay or if Azaze is a better option
Elito - release, too far from the first team

The most likely departures are the injury prone players. If Santos and Shaq can't get a run of games in at some point before the end of the season it will be hard to justify retaining them.
Depends which division we are in other than Josh don't think any of the others mentioned are league standard.
hoofer2
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Re: Injury update

Post: # 291305Post hoofer2 »

Rather than just focus on the players Still signed, I'd look at the squad as a whole. Over the past 2+ seasons Shaq and Santos cannot be relied upon fitness wise.
I think both players will need to move on at the end of the season regardless of end of season fitness. A few seasons ago a tough decision was made about Yakubu
for similar reasons.

At centre half I think pecking order is:

1) Santos
2) Reynolds
3) EJ - Lost his pace now so not a consideration for fullback. Cannot see why he is being asked to take all the set pieces
4) Harry Taylor
5) Sweeney - needs to improve his concentration - I'd play him as a fellani type in midfield if plan B is needed

Up front :

1) McCallum - He'll be a workhorse. He got the assist because he went to get the ball from further back - something that Akinola has to improve on
2) Walker - so clinical and works hard for the team
3) Coulthirst - Has good ability - just shades Akinola
4) Akinola - Needs to work harder and search for the ball - expects other players to do the hard work
5) EMC - I think he is playing as well as he can, and cannot see him improving any more

Defensive midfield:

1) Dunne
2) Adams
3) Sweeney - though think he would be a good option to play with Dunne / Adams

Attacking midfield:

1) Elito - cannot see why he is not starting now Taylor has left
2) Vilhete - I fear his legs have gone - very competent but struggles to beat his man - hopefully a full pre-season will be the tonic
3) Sparkes - I think he has played well this season especially when asked to cover left back. A run of games will get his eye in as best
striker of deadball.
4) Fonguck - I like him. And he works hard for the team and we seem to score goals when he is around as defenders seem to find
him awkward to play against - gets himself in their faces

Fullback

1) Tutonda - one of our underrated players and on a different wavelength at times - you could see vs Hartlepool his frusration of lack of meaningful runs ahead.
2) Alexander
3) Vilhete - Position specialists are ahead


With a fully fit team, my starting XI would be as 3-4-1-2

---------------------------Loach
-------Harry Taylor----Santos----Reynolds
---Alexander------Sweeney----Dunne-------------Tutonda
----------------------------Elito
--------------McCullem-----------Walker

Bench: Azaze, Akinola, Adams, EJ, Vilhete

or if 4-2-3-1
------------------------Loach
Alexander------Santos------Reynolds------Tutonda
--------------Sweeney---------Dunne
---------Akinola-------Elito------Walker
-----------------------McCullem
djhdjh
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Re: Injury update

Post: # 291306Post djhdjh »

As always, it's a money thing. For example, I think Cheye is a decent right back at this level. But if he's one of the highest paid players at the club as has been rumoured, he's not worth that so it would depend on his willingness to be paid more in line with his play.

Not meant as a dig at Cheye, just pointing out the reality of the situation.
WinchyBee
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Re: Injury update

Post: # 291315Post WinchyBee »

How on earth are people writing Ephron off? He has such natural and raw ability on the ball, will go onto play at a much higher level a la Jamal Lowe once he becomes a little more consistent and makes a couple of better decisions on the ball.
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rudebwoyben
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Re: Injury update

Post: # 291316Post rudebwoyben »

WinchyBee wrote:How on earth are people writing Ephron off? He has such natural and raw ability on the ball, will go onto play at a much higher level a la Jamal Lowe once he becomes a little more consistent and makes a couple of better decisions on the ball.
Exactly this. It's only his second season as a first team regular and he's still developing. Even though he hasn't made the impact some hoped for this season he has still contributed a fair number of goals and assists. In his last league appearance, against Halifax, he showed how effective he can be when not trying to do too much by himself and set up Jack's goal.
hoofer2
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Re: Injury update

Post: # 291319Post hoofer2 »

WinchyBee wrote:How on earth are people writing Ephron off? He has such natural and raw ability on the ball, will go onto play at a much higher level a la Jamal Lowe once he becomes a little more consistent and makes a couple of better decisions on the ball.
A very fair point, however my perception is he is lacking instinct and has to be told where to position, when to run etc. - is this something that can be taught or is it something that you have already?
Chris Waddle on radio 5 is always going on about this.

Currie will be the ideal manager to bring him through, but we are talking about the assembling of a squad capable of challenging for promotion and need form in every game not 1 in 5.
Let's hope he does make it with the Bees and he will eventually secure a place in the starting XI
barnet_pls
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Re: Injury update

Post: # 291320Post barnet_pls »

EMC was class when he last played - his crosses were excellent. How anyone would keep Sparkes and not EMC is madness. Also if it had to be a choice, he also comes ahead of Elito or Fonguk. I also agree with having to make tough choices with players who get injured alot i.e Santos and Colhirst . . . we can't afford such limited apprearances given our limited finances / wages. This will allow for additional loan players / options with a slimmed down squad in the summer.
jerroll
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Re: Injury update

Post: # 291321Post jerroll »

barnet_pls wrote:EMC was class when he last played - his crosses were excellent. How anyone would keep Sparkes and not EMC is madness. Also if it had to be a choice, he also comes ahead of Elito or Fonguk. I also agree with having to make tough choices with players who get injured alot i.e Santos and Colhirst . . . we can't afford such limited apprearances given our limited finances / wages. This will allow for additional loan players / options with a slimmed down squad in the summer.
Mason Clark has 2 years left on his contract anyway!
john dockers shorts
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Re: Injury update

Post: # 291323Post john dockers shorts »

djhdjh wrote:As always, it's a money thing. For example, I think Cheye is a decent right back at this level. But if he's one of the highest paid players at the club as has been rumoured, he's not worth that so it would depend on his willingness to be paid more in line with his play.

Not meant as a dig at Cheye, just pointing out the reality of the situation.
If played as a right back decent. However as our right sided creative player there is very little output.
b4life
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Re: Injury update

Post: # 291324Post b4life »

In my opinion one of the most significant impacts that DC and his team has made is making players, that looked frankly terrible last season, Reynolds and Alexander to name but two, perform much, much better this season. That's always the sign of a very good manager. Some players have improved more than others. Tutonda is often frustrating, clearly a lot of talent but doesn't produce enough end quality, Fonguck, not consistent enough in his performances but can be great. I think EMC falls into this category too, I don't think he's really had a long enough go in the first team to gain a strong level of consistent high quality.
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gafferbee
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Re: Injury update

Post: # 291327Post gafferbee »

Since I started watching a few more matches back in December, Reynolds and Alexander have both looked very composed. Alexander has a nice cross on him and could be a good source for McCallum if we can keep getting him into space. I was always a big Tutonda fan but he really does dally on the ball sometimes. He needs to trust his instinct. Sweeney seems not quite at the level he was last season, I think.
mcleod23
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Re: Injury update

Post: # 291337Post mcleod23 »

Fonguck cannot be classed as ‘works hard for the team’ I’m sorry. Lightweight luxury player.

Believe EMC is injured judging by his insta. Hasn’t been as good this season as last. There is a player there, just needs to bin off the stepovers and run directly, like Mauro.
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