Stanley the tout

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jerroll
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Re: Stanley the tout

Post: # 276272Post jerroll »

MCB wrote:
hoofer2 wrote: Taking the club to the brink is inexcusable and it's clear that managing finances of a football club in the way you ran a ticket brokerage would catch up with you, but what a time to be a Bees fan.
The football was sublime at time, the terraces thriving and players who knew what it meant to perform in a bees shirt.

All to provoke a response that was to be photographed and made into the infamous "Ban Fat Stan Poster" that was circulated in it's thousands and papered onto
a huge mobile billboard, motivation to sell papers rather than genuinely care about Barnet FC.

At the time I was one of many caught up in the mania, upset that the club was brought to the brink after our most successful season in history and took pleasure
in having the poster on my wall. But on reflection part of me feels ashamed that I made a small contribution to the Sun's hate campaign against an individual who played a big part in
bringing seasons of football joy that will never be bettered. We had every right to be angry and protest, shame it was hijacked by the Sun,
All good points, I still have my Ban Fat Stan Poster. But that came around after he assaulted one of their photographers.

I'm not sure whether I have much sympathy for Stan. If you listen to the fabulous Magic Sponge Podcast Barry Fry Episode you realise that there was a sustained programme of fraud against HMRC that could seriously impact almost everyone of the people that worked so diligently for the club then (when Barry came to claim his pension they claimed he hadn't worked for the entire time he was at Barnet - fortunately Bazza's wife had kept all of his payslips that showed that the club had 'paid' NI. But as he said, those coming up to pensionable age and havn't got their payslips will struggle to get their full pension for any time they worked at Barnet FC).



There is a big difference between 'cheeky chappie' and a lot of the seemingly quite dark things that went on, and that certainly includes taking this club to the precipice. Also #FuckYouWalsall
Fortunately until we joined the FL Barry was almost the only full time employee of the club so it will only be a 2 year period ex players and staff will suffer a shortfall in their pension.
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Re: Stanley the tout

Post: # 276278Post rudebwoyben »

jerroll wrote:
MCB wrote:
hoofer2 wrote: Taking the club to the brink is inexcusable and it's clear that managing finances of a football club in the way you ran a ticket brokerage would catch up with you, but what a time to be a Bees fan.
The football was sublime at time, the terraces thriving and players who knew what it meant to perform in a bees shirt.

All to provoke a response that was to be photographed and made into the infamous "Ban Fat Stan Poster" that was circulated in it's thousands and papered onto
a huge mobile billboard, motivation to sell papers rather than genuinely care about Barnet FC.

At the time I was one of many caught up in the mania, upset that the club was brought to the brink after our most successful season in history and took pleasure
in having the poster on my wall. But on reflection part of me feels ashamed that I made a small contribution to the Sun's hate campaign against an individual who played a big part in
bringing seasons of football joy that will never be bettered. We had every right to be angry and protest, shame it was hijacked by the Sun,
Surely Brian Ayres would have full-time too?!

All good points, I still have my Ban Fat Stan Poster. But that came around after he assaulted one of their photographers.

I'm not sure whether I have much sympathy for Stan. If you listen to the fabulous Magic Sponge Podcast Barry Fry Episode you realise that there was a sustained programme of fraud against HMRC that could seriously impact almost everyone of the people that worked so diligently for the club then (when Barry came to claim his pension they claimed he hadn't worked for the entire time he was at Barnet - fortunately Bazza's wife had kept all of his payslips that showed that the club had 'paid' NI. But as he said, those coming up to pensionable age and havn't got their payslips will struggle to get their full pension for any time they worked at Barnet FC).



There is a big difference between 'cheeky chappie' and a lot of the seemingly quite dark things that went on, and that certainly includes taking this club to the precipice. Also #FuckYouWalsall
Fortunately until we joined the FL Barry was almost the only full time employee of the club so it will only be a 2 year period ex players and staff will suffer a shortfall in their pension.
jerroll
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Re: Stanley the tout

Post: # 276282Post jerroll »

rudebwoyben wrote:
jerroll wrote:
MCB wrote:
hoofer2 wrote: Taking the club to the brink is inexcusable and it's clear that managing finances of a football club in the way you ran a ticket brokerage would catch up with you, but what a time to be a Bees fan.
The football was sublime at time, the terraces thriving and players who knew what it meant to perform in a bees shirt.

All to provoke a response that was to be photographed and made into the infamous "Ban Fat Stan Poster" that was circulated in it's thousands and papered onto
a huge mobile billboard, motivation to sell papers rather than genuinely care about Barnet FC.

At the time I was one of many caught up in the mania, upset that the club was brought to the brink after our most successful season in history and took pleasure
in having the poster on my wall. But on reflection part of me feels ashamed that I made a small contribution to the Sun's hate campaign against an individual who played a big part in
bringing seasons of football joy that will never be bettered. We had every right to be angry and protest, shame it was hijacked by the Sun,
Surely Brian Ayres would have full-time too?!

All good points, I still have my Ban Fat Stan Poster. But that came around after he assaulted one of their photographers.

I'm not sure whether I have much sympathy for Stan. If you listen to the fabulous Magic Sponge Podcast Barry Fry Episode you realise that there was a sustained programme of fraud against HMRC that could seriously impact almost everyone of the people that worked so diligently for the club then (when Barry came to claim his pension they claimed he hadn't worked for the entire time he was at Barnet - fortunately Bazza's wife had kept all of his payslips that showed that the club had 'paid' NI. But as he said, those coming up to pensionable age and havn't got their payslips will struggle to get their full pension for any time they worked at Barnet FC).



There is a big difference between 'cheeky chappie' and a lot of the seemingly quite dark things that went on, and that certainly includes taking this club to the precipice. Also #FuckYouWalsall
Fortunately until we joined the FL Barry was almost the only full time employee of the club so it will only be a 2 year period ex players and staff will suffer a shortfall in their pension.
Brian would have been but I'm sure I heard he's no longer with us.
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alexbach
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Re: Stanley the tout

Post: # 276343Post alexbach »

timbee wrote:Curiosity got the better of me so a few minutes hunting around reveals that this was 1962 and the score was 4-4 in front of 61,749. Scorers were Cliff Jones (2), Dave Mackay & John White and David Court (2), Johnny Macleod & Geoff Strong.


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Coincidence.Image library book I'm reading"When footballers were skint" mentions that very game as it was cliff Jones Tottenham debutImagetells a good yarn does Cliff

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Re: Stanley the tout

Post: # 276344Post amberforever »

Don’t know if a Spurs officianado can help me but I went to Tottenham v Stoke somewhere around 62 to 64 and saw Jimmy Greaves, Terry Venables, Alan Gilzean and possibly Dave Mackay play. A great match to watch. Anyone have any idea on the details of the match?
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Re: Stanley the tout

Post: # 276356Post timbee »

amberforever wrote:Don’t know if a Spurs officianado can help me but I went to Tottenham v Stoke somewhere around 62 to 64 and saw Jimmy Greaves, Terry Venables, Alan Gilzean and possibly Dave Mackay play. A great match to watch. Anyone have any idea on the details of the match?
This might help narrow things down.

https://www.11v11.com/teams/tottenham-h ... ke%20City/


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Post: # 276363Post amberforever »

Many thanks for that timbee. Wish I could remember the score then I could pinpoint it. Will do some research on the probable year. I’m sure Greavsie scored!
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Post: # 276365Post timbee »

amberforever wrote:Many thanks for that timbee. Wish I could remember the score then I could pinpoint it. Will do some research on the probable year. I’m sure Greavsie scored!
You’re welcome. Good luck!


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amberforever wrote:Many thanks for that timbee. Wish I could remember the score then I could pinpoint it. Will do some research on the probable year. I’m sure Greavsie scored!
Venables joined Spurs in 1966 so your original estimate will be too early if he definitely played.
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Re: Stanley the tout

Post: # 276394Post amberforever »

Thanks for that, yes definitely remember him playing so it’s 31st August 66. I love the old grounds. Remember almost being Underhill closeness to the pitch. They had old white panel fencing round the edge didn’t they. ?
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