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Average Attendances

Post: # 270059Post BEEGONE »

The latest list is out, not good reading...


The National League Attendance Table
1. Wrexham 5,192
2. Leyton Orient 5,186
3. Chesterfield 4,526
4. Hartlepool United 3,057
5. Salford City 2,516
6. Maidstone United 2,252
7. Sutton United 1,863
8. Aldershot Town 1,779
9. Eastleigh 1,743
10: Harrogate Town 1,728
11. AFC Fylde 1,722
12. FC Halifax Town 1,597
13. Ebbsfleet United 1,479
14. Dagenham & R 1,441
15. Maidenhead United 1,355
16. Bromley 1,345
17. Havant & Waterlooville 1,300
18. Barrow 1,286
19. Barnet 1,284
20. Solihull Moors 1,154
21. Dover Athletic 1,137
22. Gateshead 835
23. Boreham Wood 769
24. Braintree Town 732

Traditionally our lower crowds since southern league days?
What are the likes of Bromley, Havant and Eastleigh doing that is attracting more people to matches....
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Post: # 270062Post Norfolk & Chance »

They play in Bromley, Havant and Eastleigh?
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Post: # 270065Post pletch99 »

All three are also playing at the highest level they have ever played at (and are relatively recently promoted to this level)

We on the other hand are a couple of levels below our peak and recently relegated. Add in some pretty dire football at the start of the season.....

The truth is there are many contributory factors to our attendance woes. The fact that we are a few miles from our traditional home is clearly one of them. There are clearly some former regulars who don't come or come less often because of the location of The Hive, but I doubt that this group is much more than 50-100 people. I would imagine entertainment level of football, matchday pricing, the availability of other sporting entertainment and unfulfilled promises of a promotion challenge all have an equally important impact.

Indeed, since attendances have dropped on the last couple of seasons, one could hardly say the location of the hive was the main factor.
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Re: Average Attendances

Post: # 270068Post rudebwoyben »

BEEGONE wrote:The latest list is out, not good reading...


The National League Attendance Table
1. Wrexham 5,192
2. Leyton Orient 5,186
3. Chesterfield 4,526
4. Hartlepool United 3,057
5. Salford City 2,516
6. Maidstone United 2,252
7. Sutton United 1,863
8. Aldershot Town 1,779
9. Eastleigh 1,743
10: Harrogate Town 1,728
11. AFC Fylde 1,722
12. FC Halifax Town 1,597
13. Ebbsfleet United 1,479
14. Dagenham & R 1,441
15. Maidenhead United 1,355
16. Bromley 1,345
17. Havant & Waterlooville 1,300
18. Barrow 1,286
19. Barnet 1,284
20. Solihull Moors 1,154
21. Dover Athletic 1,137
22. Gateshead 835
23. Boreham Wood 769
24. Braintree Town 732

Traditionally our lower crowds since southern league days?
What are the likes of Bromley, Havant and Eastleigh doing that is attracting more people to matches....
Nah, we never got a seasonal average attendance as high as that during the early Alliance Premier League years (1979-1986).
Still worrying though even if the Orient match will bring the average up.
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Re: Average Attendances

Post: # 270070Post Norfolk & Chance »

There were some quite barren years in the early and mid 80s for sure. I remember standing on the terraces and looking around at the sparsely populated ground pretty much every week.
Almost literally one man and his dog.
I think 800 ish was pretty common.
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Post: # 270072Post rudebwoyben »

Norfolk & Chance wrote:There were some quite barren years in the early and mid 80s for sure. I remember standing on the terraces and looking around at the sparsely populated ground pretty much every week.
Almost literally one man and his dog.
I think 800 ish was pretty common.
According to this
http://european-football-statistics.co. ... e/bart.htm
we never even reached an average attendance as high as 800 between 1979 and 1986!
This was at a time when football attendances were in what seemed at the time to be catastrophic and terminal decline.
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Post: # 270084Post BEEGONE »

I find it so hard to believe we are such a small club in the national league. The figure shocked me TBH.

How have the likes of Maidenhead improved their crowds.

Did Daggers get bigger crowds then us in the league? I don’t think so.
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Post: # 270085Post Norfolk & Chance »

rudebwoyben wrote:
Norfolk & Chance wrote:There were some quite barren years in the early and mid 80s for sure. I remember standing on the terraces and looking around at the sparsely populated ground pretty much every week.
Almost literally one man and his dog.
I think 800 ish was pretty common.
According to this
http://european-football-statistics.co. ... e/bart.htm
we never even reached an average attendance as high as 800 between 1979 and 1986!
This was at a time when football attendances were in what seemed at the time to be catastrophic and terminal decline.
I wonder what happened in 1987............. :D
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Post: # 270089Post pgbee »

BEEGONE wrote:I find it so hard to believe we are such a small club in the national league. The figure shocked me TBH.

How have the likes of Maidenhead improved their crowds.

Did Daggers get bigger crowds then us in the league? I don’t think so.
I can't be bothered to find out but maybe some of these clubs above who we are wondering why (e.g. Maidenhead , Havant ) have played the larger away supported teams and we haven't, these sort of stats are only worth analysing at the end of the season when everyone has played everyone else.
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Post: # 270090Post pgbee »

BEEGONE wrote:I find it so hard to believe we are such a small club in the national league. The figure shocked me TBH.

How have the likes of Maidenhead improved their crowds.

Did Daggers get bigger crowds then us in the league? I don’t think so.
I can't be bothered to find out but maybe some of these clubs above us who we are wondering why (e.g. Maidenhead , Havant ) have played the larger away supported teams or have more local derbies and we haven't, these sort of stats are only worth analysing at the end of the season when everyone has played everyone else. Or just look at home supporter figures ....
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Re: Average Attendances

Post: # 270095Post #Beebot »

BEEGONE wrote:I find it so hard to believe we are such a small club in the national league. The figure shocked me TBH.

How have the likes of Maidenhead improved their crowds.

Did Daggers get bigger crowds then us in the league? I don’t think so.
Average attendances at Maidenhead around the 300 mark five years ago with the team constantly struggling in the NL South.

In the NL South title winning season started off around 400 and up to well over 1000 by the end of the season. They haven't fallen below 1000 since.

£100 season tickets and £10 entry in the NL South, up to £150 and £15 following promotion. Ground is in a very central location pretty much next to the station so no problem getting people through the door provided the results aren't terrible.
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Re: Average Attendances

Post: # 270100Post hoofer2 »

BEEGONE wrote:I find it so hard to believe we are such a small club in the national league. The figure shocked me TBH.

How have the likes of Maidenhead improved their crowds.

Did Daggers get bigger crowds then us in the league? I don’t think so.
I think we have simply got fed up with seasonsl rhetoric that we are going to challenge for the league and play offs, only to deliver another season of abject average football. The cup runs have provided a welcome respite, but the league doesn't lie...
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Re: Average Attendances

Post: # 270107Post Masuka »

I’ve never really understood the weight behind average gate tables. The league table matters.
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Post: # 270110Post Livibee »

Masuka wrote:I’ve never really understood the weight behind average gate tables. The league table matters.
Doesn't really matter as we are in about the same position for both tables - near the bottom and just outside the relegation zone !
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Re: Average Attendances

Post: # 270118Post alexbach »

pletch99 wrote:All three are also playing at the highest level they have ever played at (and are relatively recently promoted to this level)

We on the other hand are a couple of levels below our peak and recently relegated. Add in some pretty dire football at the start of the season.....

The truth is there are many contributory factors to our attendance woes. The fact that we are a few miles from our traditional home is clearly one of them. There are clearly some former regulars who don't come or come less often because of the location of The Hive, but I doubt that this group is much more than 50-100 people. I would imagine entertainment level of football, matchday pricing, the availability of other sporting entertainment and unfulfilled promises of a promotion challenge all have an equally important impact.

Indeed, since attendances have dropped on the last couple of seasons, one could hardly say the location of the hive was the main factor.
Although havant were a different team, formed from amalgamation and eastleigh hampshire league not all that long ago........ Bromley have a couple of amateur cups, and peaked long before the gola league. Others on this list have complicated histories, wrexham and leyton orient second tier clubs when i was a teenager
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