Martin Allen -Why ?

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Re: Martin Allen -Why ?

Postby footballman » 16 May 2018, 23:57

Barnetchris wrote:I disagree that he was “ having a laugh”, his contract was up he moved on, simple as that. He owes us nothing, the only strange thing about this is he was picking players to play against his team ( did he already know he was going to Chesterfield) this season, having said that most of us agree with his selection so no problem .
Good luck to him, but just not at Chesterfield, I dont mind them coming up in the play-offs as long as we’re champions.

Well, he just might owe us a slight apology for suddenly leaving the club this season and going to Eastleigh, because he just felt like it. That was the origin of our decline towards relegation, the team never recovered from that disruption, it was the worst time to be abandoned by a manager. This had both technical and psychological consequences for the players and the team as a whole. There just wasn't time to find a suitable replacement and things just went from bad to worse. He wanted to be the hero who saved us but the damage was done. It is ironic that he felt the effects of his decision of leaving for Eastleigh on the day we were relegated. What goes around comes around as the saying goes.
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Re: Martin Allen -Why ?

Postby NoMagRyan » 17 May 2018, 08:59

footballman wrote:Well, he just might owe us a slight apology for suddenly leaving the club this season and going to Eastleigh, because he just felt like it. That was the origin of our decline towards relegation, the team never recovered from that disruption


He didn't hire the subsequent managers
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Re: Martin Allen -Why ?

Postby ninestein » 17 May 2018, 09:26

There were enough opportunities for the club to make the right decisions and react to Martin's departure to Eastleigh. At the time, a lot of us felt it was the right time for him to move on. We'd gone a bit stale.
The interim appointment of Rossi & Henry was a fair one, but we dithered and left them both to it for too long. Then we brought in Nugent which was a strange short term appointment. When Allen departed, any other club in that division would have gone out and selected a permanent successor straight away, and the interim bosses would have been in there for 3-4 games max before returning to their usual roles.

Despite this, In the summer, we were actually in a reasonably good place. There was a feel-good factor, some decent signings on paper, and we got off to a reasonable start before we lost our way during Exeter (H). We had another opportunity to put a permanent successor in place in time for the January window, but instead we persisted with McGhee and then Westley. The January transfer window was wasted, and Martin was brought in to play a very unfavourable hand. The fact we got to the final day is down to his man management and the belief he gave the players.

Martin owes us no apology for departing to Eastleigh. What followed in the 12 months or so afterwards was not down to him. It was down to poor decision making in selecting the right managers at the right time for our club.
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Re: Martin Allen -Why ?

Postby ape1968 » 17 May 2018, 09:34

ninestein wrote:There were enough opportunities for the club to make the right decisions and react to Martin's departure to Eastleigh. At the time, a lot of us felt it was the right time for him to move on. We'd gone a bit stale.
The interim appointment of Rossi & Henry was a fair one, but we dithered and left them both to it for too long. Then we brought in Nugent which was a strange short term appointment. When Allen departed, any other club in that division would have gone out and selected a permanent successor straight away, and the interim bosses would have been in there for 3-4 games max before returning to their usual roles.

Despite this, In the summer, we were actually in a reasonably good place. There was a feel-good factor, some decent signings on paper, and we got off to a reasonable start before we lost our way during Exeter (H). We had another opportunity to put a permanent successor in place in time for the January window, but instead we persisted with McGhee and then Westley. The January transfer window was wasted, and Martin was brought in to play a very unfavourable hand. The fact we got to the final day is down to his man management and the belief he gave the players.

Martin owes us no apology for departing to Eastleigh. What followed in the 12 months or so afterwards was not down to him. It was down to poor decision making in selecting the right managers at the right time for our club.


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Re: Martin Allen -Why ?

Postby LoudmouthBFC » 17 May 2018, 15:09

ninestein wrote:There were enough opportunities for the club to make the right decisions and react to Martin's departure to Eastleigh. At the time, a lot of us felt it was the right time for him to move on. We'd gone a bit stale.
The interim appointment of Rossi & Henry was a fair one, but we dithered and left them both to it for too long. Then we brought in Nugent which was a strange short term appointment. When Allen departed, any other club in that division would have gone out and selected a permanent successor straight away, and the interim bosses would have been in there for 3-4 games max before returning to their usual roles.

Despite this, In the summer, we were actually in a reasonably good place. There was a feel-good factor, some decent signings on paper, and we got off to a reasonable start before we lost our way during Exeter (H). We had another opportunity to put a permanent successor in place in time for the January window, but instead we persisted with McGhee and then Westley. The January transfer window was wasted, and Martin was brought in to play a very unfavourable hand. The fact we got to the final day is down to his man management and the belief he gave the players.

Martin owes us no apology for departing to Eastleigh. What followed in the 12 months or so afterwards was not down to him. It was down to poor decision making in selecting the right managers at the right time for our club.



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Re: Martin Allen -Why ?

Postby Bee52 » 17 May 2018, 15:47

Don't worry, I'll put an end too it!
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Re: Martin Allen -Why ?

Postby Norfolk & Chance » 17 May 2018, 17:47

Me to.
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Re: Martin Allen -Why ?

Postby Hiveoccupier » 17 May 2018, 18:11

ninestein wrote:There were enough opportunities for the club to make the right decisions and react to Martin's departure to Eastleigh. At the time, a lot of us felt it was the right time for him to move on. We'd gone a bit stale.
The interim appointment of Rossi & Henry was a fair one, but we dithered and left them both to it for too long. Then we brought in Nugent which was a strange short term appointment. When Allen departed, any other club in that division would have gone out and selected a permanent successor straight away, and the interim bosses would have been in there for 3-4 games max before returning to their usual roles.

Despite this, In the summer, we were actually in a reasonably good place. There was a feel-good factor, some decent signings on paper, and we got off to a reasonable start before we lost our way during Exeter (H). We had another opportunity to put a permanent successor in place in time for the January window, but instead we persisted with McGhee and then Westley. The January transfer window was wasted, and Martin was brought in to play a very unfavourable hand. The fact we got to the final day is down to his man management and the belief he gave the players.

Martin owes us no apology for departing to Eastleigh. What followed in the 12 months or so afterwards was not down to him. It was down to poor decision making in selecting the right managers at the right time for our club.


It is quite astounding that from his departure to Eastleigh in late 2016 until his return in early 2018 the Club made 6 appointments to the manger role. It must be a record of some sort ?
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Re: Martin Allen -Why ?

Postby Hiveoccupier » 17 May 2018, 18:12

Norfolk & Chance wrote:Me to.


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