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Re: Shark attack

Postby GRH » 13 Jul 2015, 22:10

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BarnetSteve wrote:I think some need to realise that this guy was convicted on the policeman's evidence that he saw the steward hit in an aggressive manner. The steward clearly didn't drag this guy out of the crowd, the police did and the the steward was asked to give a statement and subsequently had to confirm the statement in court. I very much doubt he had much say in whether this guy was arrested and charged.


So, if it wasn't in an aggresive manner but a humorous manner, all charges would be dropped?

If I was the steward I'd be embarrased to give a statement.


The aggression is kind of needed for it to be common assault.
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Re: Shark attack

Postby WeStillBelieve » 13 Jul 2015, 22:15

GRH wrote:
WeStillBelieve wrote:
BarnetSteve wrote:I think some need to realise that this guy was convicted on the policeman's evidence that he saw the steward hit in an aggressive manner. The steward clearly didn't drag this guy out of the crowd, the police did and the the steward was asked to give a statement and subsequently had to confirm the statement in court. I very much doubt he had much say in whether this guy was arrested and charged.


So, if it wasn't in an aggresive manner but a humorous manner, all charges would be dropped?

If I was the steward I'd be embarrased to give a statement.


The aggression is kind of needed for it to be common assault.


Hope he is nursing his injuries okay. Poor lad.
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Re: Shark attack

Postby MajorBrownEye » 13 Jul 2015, 22:16

The BBC has removed the photo from the page, preferring to show the scale model he took to court instead.

However.....

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The amnesia may well be related to the amount of puff required to inflate that sea monster.
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Re: Shark attack

Postby lemming3k » 13 Jul 2015, 22:17

Those Mariners will batter anything!
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Re: Shark attack

Postby GRH » 13 Jul 2015, 22:17

So if whilst striking the steward, this 50 year man, is also racially abusing him, the comic effect of hitting someone with a grey inflatable shark would negate the abuse?
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Re: Shark attack

Postby WeStillBelieve » 13 Jul 2015, 22:19

GRH wrote:So if whilst striking the steward, this 50 year man, is also racially abusing him, the comic effect of hitting someone with a grey inflatable shark would negate the abuse?


Yeah, that's what I was getting at mate.

Right on the money, you.
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Re: Shark attack

Postby GRH » 13 Jul 2015, 22:23

Nicely ducked. But we'll assume you know that of course it wouldn't.

So we can say that rather than the inflatable being a grey shark, it is more a red herring.

The guy wasn't charged with assault for giving a couple of taps on the head with an inflatable. But it makes a good story. He was charged because he was witnessed threatening the steward. If he'd just gone up to the steward empty handed and said the same things in the same manner, he would still have been arrested, but then it wouldn't have made for such an amusing story.
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Re: Shark attack

Postby beew » 13 Jul 2015, 22:26

I'd say the Grimsby fan I quoted earlier summed it up quite well. A fun day for them which ended in victory but also cost one of their fans a criminal record and great expense. I was at the game and as I knew a Grimsby fan through a friend was sending him clips of their crowd having obvious fun from my seat in the west. One of the clips at the end I titled, would love to be a Grimsby fan right now , as they were absolutely fantastic at that point (not literally though). The club really needs to look at its treatment of away fans as they are crucial to our progression and employ stewards capable of controlling intimidating people.
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Re: Shark attack

Postby MajorBrownEye » 13 Jul 2015, 22:41

Just scanned the Grimsby forum and it's laughable. According to a few numbskulls on there it was a balloon and he would have got off if it wasn't London and he wasn't Northern.

Others are stating that he ran up to the steward and shouted "You can f***ing have it an' all" which was overheard by a policeman. Now that evidence is supposedly questionable as there was so much noise when they scored.

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Re: Shark attack

Postby beew » 13 Jul 2015, 22:49

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/20 ... 614738.jpg

Was the assualt more serious than this?
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Re: Shark attack

Postby barnetdw » 13 Jul 2015, 23:15

I think there's too much carping on in this thread...
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Re: Shark attack

Postby Mikel Bee » 13 Jul 2015, 23:19

beew wrote:they[Grimsby fans] were absolutely fantastic at that point (not literally though).


They were also throwing things onto the pitch... Inflatable or not, that's not really acceptable while a game is in progress. I also heard some months ago from a very good source that at least one other member of staff was kicked by a Grimsby fan, though why it hasn't yet resulted in a prosecution I don't know.

beew wrote:The club really needs to look at its treatment of away fans as they are crucial to our progression and employ stewards capable of controlling intimidating people.


I'm really not sure what your gripe with the club is in this instance? The police arrested him, the club's stewards did not retaliate unlike the FGR incident and the steward in question seemingly gave evidence off his own back.
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Re: Shark attack

Postby Jimbokav1971 » 13 Jul 2015, 23:32

It all smells a bit fishy to me.
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Re: Shark attack

Postby ShankBee » 13 Jul 2015, 23:51

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beew wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if the steward in question, was the same one who tried to get my mate arrested for the crime of using the toilet in the west stand bar without showing his membership card.


Or the one who tried to restrain me for exchanging words with Josh Payne during the Woking game.

Absolute overkill.

I can just imagine the courtroom - "He hit this poor man with an inflatable shark - the intent was there and the steward in question is clearly traumatised".

What an absolute joke.


Er, what if the Sharks inflatable dorsal fin grazed the steward and he didn't have any savlon at home?
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Re: Shark attack

Postby pauln50 » 14 Jul 2015, 05:36

It is on the main bbc news site this morning
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